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Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox

December 08, 2025 5 min read views
Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox
Business — December 8, 2025 Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox Tech legend Bob Taylor — a pioneer of the computing revolution — figured out the genius of framing two types of disagreement. Book cover of "The Bonfire Moment" by Martin Gonzalez, Josh Yelh, and Bob Taylor, displayed next to the text "an excerpt from" on a light green background. Harper Business / Big Think Key Takeaways
  • Leaders need to create conditions that empower their teams to speak up.
  • When leaders frame a conflict as a debate, people assume that dissenting opinions are wanted and expected.
  • In the best kind of disagreements, people take the time to fully understand each other’s point of view.
Martin Gonzalez and Joshua Yellin Copy a link to the article entitled Share Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox on Facebook Share Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox on Twitter (X) Share Collaboration masterclass: How to wrangle disagreements like Bob from Xerox on LinkedIn Sign up for the Big Think Business newsletter Learn from the world’s biggest business thinkers. Subscribe Excerpted from The Bonfire Moment: Bring Your Team Together to Solve the Hardest Problems Startups Face by Martin Gonzalez and Joshua Yellin. Copyright © 2024 by Martin Gonzalez and Joshua Yellin. Reprinted courtesy of Harper Business, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers.

Leaders need to invite disagreement, not just expect it. When the invitation to offer their opinion is not clear, teams will assume you don’t want it. Leaders often don’t realize that their status can unconsciously silence dissent. No matter how often leaders stress that no one will be punished for disagreeing, their own zeal, conviction, intelligence, and energy can be intimidating.

The classic American “open-­door policy” isn’t enough to draw out dissenters. Leaders need to create conditions that empower their teams to speak up. When it has been the cultural norm to be deferential to power, or when disagreeing has been conflated with being disagreeable, leaders need to work even harder to change the norm.

One leader we worked with in Singapore, Mei Chen, developed a creative way of drawing out her people’s best ideas, even when they contradicted her own. Mei had received some bracing feedback during her Bonfire Moment. Her team said that she always responded to objections with defensiveness. We could see that she was brilliant but very measured in how she shared ideas. As we discussed these issues, Mei realized that some of the behaviors that had made her effective in her prior job as an analyst were now hurting her ability to lead. She would take a few days to develop any new proposal before bringing it to the team. She had so much of herself invested in her ideas that when they got any pushback, it felt like a personal attack on her capabilities.

Book cover with title "The Bonfire Moment" by Martin Gonzalez & Josh Yellin, featuring a diagonal orange-purple gradient stripe on a white background.

Mei recognized that she needed to change before the most talented people on her team quit in frustration, and she found two tactics that worked very well. First, she committed to come to meetings less prepared, despite her perfectionist instincts. She found that when she put less prep work into her own ideas, it didn’t sting as much when people raised questions and outright disagreed. Second, to further encourage honest exchanges, she started having more one-­on-­one conversations. In private with a single team member, she would lay out her idea and the reasoning behind it. Then she’d say: “I’m pretty sure I’m missing out on important things here. What’s missing? What don’t I see?”

Mei’s approach aligns with the conclusions of researchers from Singapore Management University and UC Berkeley. Their study suggests that when leaders frame conflicting ideas as expressing disagreement, team members assume the leader isn’t really open to dissenting opinions. This assumption tends to shorten conversations and reduce the exchange of important information. But when the leader frames a conflict as a debate, with fair treatment for all sides, people assume that dissenting opinions are wanted and expected. In the study, the amount of shared information increased fourfold when the leader simply changed their language.

The good news is that it really is possible to escape the trap of the inner circle. Anil Sabharwal, who led the team that built Google Photos into a multibillion-­user app, describes his approach this way: “Debate. Argue. Get into it. The best results come from passionate, constructive, positive contention. Encourage it. Even force it. But know it requires a foundation of trust, honesty and respect. If you don’t have that, you just get pure contention, and that ain’t good.”

Improving the quality of your disagreements 

Tech pioneer Bob Taylor, who built one of the dream teams of the computing revolution, was a master at fostering productive disagreement. In the late 1960s, he played a key role at the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (popularly known as DARPA), which launched the earliest version of the internet, connecting computers at the Pentagon, MIT, UC Berkeley, and a research lab in Santa Monica. Then in the 1970s, he led the team that invented the world’s first personal computer at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC). As former Google CEO Eric Schmidt observed, “Bob Taylor invented almost everything in one form or another that we use today in the office and at home.”

Visitors to Xerox PARC were often shocked at the intensity of arguments among Taylor’s researchers. They didn’t try to win debates for the satisfaction of proving each other wrong; the goal was always to illuminate each other’s ideas. Criticizing a colleague’s personality or character was not allowed. Taylor saw his main role at the lab as preserving this collaborative culture and protecting it from the lone-­wolf tendencies of some of his smartest researchers. He frequently quoted a Japanese proverb: “None of us is as smart as all of us.”

Taylor liked to explain that there are two kinds of disagreements. In “Class 1” disagreements, neither party truly understands each other’s point of view, so they resort to straw man arguments —­ distorting an opposing opinion into an exaggerated, easily rebutted version of itself. Class 1 disagreements erode morale and degrade a team’s effectiveness over time.

By doing a deep dive into someone else’s position, finding the strongest aspects of it, explaining it back to them, and only then formulating a rebuttal, you have to create a “steel man” argument instead of tearing down a straw man.

During “Class 2” disagreements, in contrast, people take the time to fully understand each other’s point of view, to the standard that “I can explain your point of view to your satisfaction.” By doing a deep dive into someone else’s position, finding the strongest aspects of it, explaining it back to them, and only then formulating a rebuttal, you have to create a “steel man” argument instead of tearing down a straw man.

Taylor saw his role not as judging disagreements but as moving his people from Class 1 to Class 2 disagreements. He was able to bring together brilliant minds representing a vast array of expertise and backgrounds. More impressive, he created an environment that maximized the benefits of that diversity and essentially took himself out of the inner circle.

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Taylor’s instincts a half century ago confirm what we know today about high-­quality disagreements and the power of diversity. In an experiment by the Kellogg and Stanford business schools, respondents were put in socially diverse and nondiverse teams. At the end of a team-­based performance task, they were asked to predict how well they did. By comparing each team’s self-­perceived effectiveness with its actual performance, the researchers found that we incorrectly assume that working with similar people will lead to better results. In fact, socially diverse groups had better results, even though they found it harder to debate their opinions because they didn’t share as many references and vocabulary.

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